Well, Brazil just suffered a weird ass coup d'état

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat)
08/31/2016 at 16:38 • Filed to: THE LAND ROVER IS RED FOR A REASON

Out goes the maybe corrupt president (overthrown thanks to some fiscal bullshit they made up on a purely political trial) and in comes a definitely corrupt president and the wave of religious conservatives to take this country back to the middle ages.

Wonderful.

DISCUSSION (30)

Dru > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 16:43

How long have you live in Brazil?

For Sweden > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 16:43

Middle ages?

The Portuguese Empire is back?

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 16:46

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Well, that explains a lot, they tend to ruin everything.

My citroen won't start > For Sweden
08/31/2016 at 16:47

The Portuguese arrived here in 1500 but only started settling during the 30's so no.

My citroen won't start > Dru
08/31/2016 at 16:48

Almost my entire life.

My citroen won't start > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 16:49

“Workers don’t need laws”

“burn the gays”

“kill the poor”

That sort of thing.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 16:51

“We don’t need social programs, church charities will help the poor/sick”

HammerheadFistpunch > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 16:52

That’s a broad brush, Utah’s economy seems to be doing pretty great , for example. Sure we’ve got funny liquor laws but “ruin everything” might be a bit much.

My citroen won't start > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 16:52

Some politicians even had the cheek to say “God is behind this impeachment” as LEGAL BASIS to the trial.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 16:56

Fiscal vs. religious. Notice the next 7 states on that ranking.

Spaze > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 16:58

Those liquor laws DO ruin everything! but +1 on the broad brush... there are a lot of things wrong with brazil’s political structure

HammerheadFistpunch > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 16:59

Well, if you could pick a “religious conservative” state...it would be hard pressed to find one that fit the bill more than Utah. I’m just saying, deeply religious people can be highly effective civil servants.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 17:00

Your talking to somebody who lives in the American Mid-west, I hear this kind of stuff all the time.

Although, I’m sure it’s much worse for you. Our Supreme Court has done a decent job of smacking down stupidity lately

Textured Soy Protein > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 17:00

But you just had the Olympics! The Olympics make everything better.

HammerheadFistpunch > Spaze
08/31/2016 at 17:04

not everything. It keeps ski-drink-party-repeat types out of the backcountry early in the morning.

My citroen won't start > Textured Soy Protein
08/31/2016 at 17:04

It has absolutely zero effect, Rio’s mayor probably (hopefully) won’t be reelected.

Jcarr > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 17:05

You’re right, I do ruin everything.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 17:07

They certainly can be, however I’d say Utah is the exception.

Counterpoint: Mississippi

My citroen won't start > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 17:10

Yeah, but there’s a key difference. The conservative religious people in Utah do not have a Military Police at their disposal.

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > Jcarr
08/31/2016 at 17:10

Good to know you’re aware of your abilities :)

HammerheadFistpunch > Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch
08/31/2016 at 17:11

It probably is the exception. To be fair, our state motto is “industry”

Bman76 (no it doesn't need a WS6 hood) M. Arch > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 17:15

This is a good motto, I’m a fan.

Kansas has “ Ad astra per aspera ” (To the Stars through Difficulties)

HammerheadFistpunch > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 17:16

Well, as you’ve pointed out, motivated people will use whatever excuse they want to justify the actions that lead to the outcome they want. Utah’s religious majority is founded in base principles of agency as being a big deal in terms of gifts and rights for all people, plus it being founded in Utah principally as a result of being unjustifiably and violently driven out of other areas by Religiously conservative governments left a bad taste in the mouths of founders of people in authority using religion as an excuse to justify their actions.

Textured Soy Protein > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 17:39

I know, I was being sarcastic.

deprecated account > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 18:10

There's always Canada.

My citroen won't start > deprecated account
08/31/2016 at 18:37

I might need a temporary home in Canada while things settle down.

duurtlang > My citroen won't start
08/31/2016 at 19:16

Living an ocean away and not following Brazillian politics it’s hard to see which side is the most reliable/least unreliable. Having said that, religious conservatives in politics, ugh. I can find a single example where they’ve improved a society by imposing their subjective morals.

Please people, as long as I don’t objectively hurt anyone else, let me do as I please.

My citroen won't start > duurtlang
08/31/2016 at 19:30

Neither side is completely trustworthy or faultless.

The simple way to explain is that the right has power and people will suffer.

DipodomysDeserti > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 19:36

Arizona. Most of our politicians are also LDS, but they consider the Utah guys liberal. We even had a whole city/police department run by a far right wind fundamentalist wing of the religion. It was like a Southwestern Taliban.

DipodomysDeserti > HammerheadFistpunch
08/31/2016 at 19:53

Religiously conservative governments left a bad taste in the mouths of founders of people in authority using religion as an excuse to justify their actions.

Not bad enough of a taste, since religion was the main justification the settlers used for claiming the lands of the Ute and Shoshone as their own. To their credit, their religion did prevent them from waging a war of genocide on the natives as non-Mormon settlers did in other areas. End result was the same, though.